tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25640206.post1257957166201211682..comments2023-05-30T02:34:51.780-05:00Comments on FullyPersuadedBaptist: Practicing The Jewish Religion In The Context Of ChristianityJames McEntirehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18076786630641849452noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25640206.post-77112931511831044952007-10-22T20:20:00.000-05:002007-10-22T20:20:00.000-05:00There were a number of people who had a part in ma...There were a number of people who had a part in making it "happen". I trust everyone was as blessed by the weekend as I.James McEntirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18076786630641849452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25640206.post-2762727694990199262007-10-21T20:48:00.000-05:002007-10-21T20:48:00.000-05:00Pastor McEntire, We want to use this avenue to tha...Pastor McEntire, We want to use this avenue to thank you in this public way for all that you did to make our 30th anniversary at Faith Baptist Church such a wonderful experience. It is a day that we will remember for as long as we live. We know there were many who did lots of work and we don't know the names of all of them nor what each did, but we know that a lot of work and preparation went into all that was done. Not only work but a lot of thought. Thank you so much for everything. We are thankful for each of the thrity years and I can honestly say that they have gotten better with each year. I look forward to all that God is going to do thought Faith Baptist Church in the days that lay ahead.We are so thankful that we have you for our Pastor and Michele for our Pastor's wife and your family for our Pastor's Family. You are all such a blessing to our church and we just pray that God blesses you all with all blessings from above. Thank you for allowing God to use you to be such a blessing to our church. Thank you all for being such a blessing to me and Dad. love you all, Dad and MomTO BECOMEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01358989235076877037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25640206.post-17067372834058977062007-10-11T10:13:00.000-05:002007-10-11T10:13:00.000-05:00I left you an award. You were the first person tha...I left you an award. You were the first person that I thought about so you can do with it what you want but I knew you were one of the people who I wanted to get it. Thank you for being such a good example of Christ. MomTO BECOMEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01358989235076877037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25640206.post-84288899320362557872007-10-03T15:47:00.000-05:002007-10-03T15:47:00.000-05:00You know, I grew up with a belief in "dispensation...You know, I grew up with a belief in "dispensations," with the understanding that only the Churches of Christ taught such.<BR/><BR/>And then I discovered there was a doctrine called "dispensationalism" that was nothing at all like what we believed. Around the same time, I noticed the preachers I knew didn't seem to be using the term anymore, although they definitely still taught the concept as "ages."<BR/><BR/>The SEVEN or more dispensations blows my mind!!! We had three. They were basically three laws, for three different periods of time:<BR/><BR/>* Patriarchal age<BR/>* Mosaic law<BR/>* Law of Christ or Christian age<BR/><BR/>Even this sidesteps the fact that Gentiles basically continued under "patriarchal age" law, or basic morality, until the time of Christ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25640206.post-33087631240903651092007-09-29T20:19:00.000-05:002007-09-29T20:19:00.000-05:00stephen stallard,Thanks for reading and commenting...stephen stallard,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for reading and commenting. Yes, I believe Galatians would be another good epistle to examine in relation to the current issue.James McEntirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18076786630641849452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25640206.post-76226654243415040502007-09-29T10:04:00.000-05:002007-09-29T10:04:00.000-05:00Pastor McEntire,Thanks for your thoughts on this t...Pastor McEntire,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your thoughts on this topic. It would seem to me that those who are adopting Jewish customs for religious reasons should read the book of Galatians. The whole point of that book is to refute the idea that we have to blend Christianity with Judaism.<BR/><BR/>Thanks again.Stephen Stallardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09270710137339536559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25640206.post-3540555769324482392007-09-29T08:21:00.000-05:002007-09-29T08:21:00.000-05:00mrs. b,You are quite welcome! It sounds like we a...mrs. b,<BR/><BR/>You are quite welcome! It sounds like we are on the same page regarding this issue.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for continuing to visit and ocassionally commenting.James McEntirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18076786630641849452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25640206.post-22875385754900863182007-09-28T18:25:00.000-05:002007-09-28T18:25:00.000-05:00Pastor McEntire,I don't believe in 'opposing theol...Pastor McEntire,<BR/><BR/>I don't believe in 'opposing theologies' between the OT and NT either and agree with how you put it. <BR/><BR/>Since entering the blog-o-sphere I've encountered lots of Reformed/Calvinist folks who believe interpreting the Bible dispensationally is heresy. If I understand things correctly they believe that since the Jews have rejected Jesus Christ that the church replaced the Jews in being God's chosen. So that makes interpreting the OT a whole new ball of wax.<BR/><BR/>Here's a quote from my original link:<BR/><BR/>"Since the Jews have largely refused to accept Jesus as Christ, "the Messiah of Israel", and since he is their only means of salvation, those individual Jews that reject him, reject the merits of his atoning sacrifice for sins, and have in effect rejected the only provision God has offered for divine forgiveness, therefore they no longer are the true Israel, and Christians have become the "New Jews". This view is also often referred to as "replacement theology"; in that according to this theology, the Church from its very inception has replaced the Jewish people and National Israel as God's "chosen people" and "holy nation", now and forever. One of the scriptures often cited as a basis for this theology is 1 Peter 2:9.<BR/><BR/>In contrast, dispensationalism teaches that the Christian Church is a "parenthesis" in God's dealings with the Jews, when the Gospel began to go to the Gentiles instead of the Jews, but that God's continued care for the Jews will be revealed after the Church Age (or Dispensation), when the Jews will be restored to their land, and will accept Jesus as their Messiah. Hence, dispensationalists typically believe in a Jewish restoration."<BR/><BR/>Thanks for everything and I appreciate your taking the time to answer our questions. (o:<BR/><BR/>I wish you and your family a wonderful weekend!<BR/><BR/>Because of Christ,<BR/>~Mrs.B<BR/><BR/>--------------<BR/><BR/>Kathy,<BR/><BR/>I pray God will give you wisdom in dealing with the situation with your husband. When these types of things occur I always remember Esther and how she dealt with her husband. (o: <BR/><BR/>Blessings,<BR/>~Mrs.BCherish the Homehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09334718202170470399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25640206.post-66884334110929253502007-09-28T17:08:00.000-05:002007-09-28T17:08:00.000-05:00mrs.b,First of all I do not believe in "opposing" ...mrs.b,<BR/><BR/>First of all I do not believe in "opposing" theologies between the Old and New Testaments. I think it is more accurate to look at it as progressive revelation. This progressive revelation is in general terms presented in what might be called "dispensations" along the lines of what is listed in your comment.<BR/><BR/>What is common between the two Testaments is that God was seeking to reconcile the world unto himself through a Saviour. In the Old Testament that took place in the context of a nation. In the New Testament that takes places in the context of churches.<BR/><BR/>It must be remembered that the early church preached the gospel using the Old Testament, thus the gospel must be the same in both Testaments. In all ages men had to see themselves as separated from God by sin and then turn to God for salvation believing that he either would (OT) or did (NT) provide a Saviour.<BR/><BR/>I asked how you defined dispensationalism because I don't usually like to be identified by such terms. They can mean different things to different people and I prefer to see myself as a simple bible believer.<BR/><BR/>kathy f.,<BR/><BR/>I am glad for two things. One, that you found my post helpful and two, that you won't be "sitting your husband down" to read it. I would not want to be party to such things.<BR/><BR/>If there is some way you can graciously and with humility and respect encourage him to reexamine the other side of the issue then that may be helpful. I don't necessarily think you are required to keep your mouth shut especially since he has not made a decision. I think the important thing is to use wisdom in approaching the topic should you feel led to do so.<BR/><BR/>May the Lord bless you and your husband.James McEntirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18076786630641849452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25640206.post-50918147651604422222007-09-28T14:19:00.000-05:002007-09-28T14:19:00.000-05:00Thank you, Pastor McEntire, for taking the time to...Thank you, Pastor McEntire, for taking the time to fully answer my questions. You put into words what I knew to be true in my heart and mind, but was unable to coherently put it together. That said, I won't be sitting my husband down at the computer to read this, because he is one that has to find his own way, and I'm not the leader in this family! I have great respect for my husband, and he is truly an outstanding husband and father. His friend is enthusiastically into the Messianic movement and gave those books to him to read, and he now thinks that is the way to go. I don't! I can only continue to pray that God will lead him through this and back to the real Truth, while refraining from "bad-mouthing" the books he is reading. Which makes me sound like some super saint, and I'm not. Patience is not one of my strong points, and this "movement" he is beginning to embrace really bothers me. It is so hard to keep my mouth shut! <BR/>Again, thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. God bless you and your family!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25640206.post-53113271722203840232007-09-28T13:40:00.000-05:002007-09-28T13:40:00.000-05:00Here is where the definition below, came from. Th...<A HREF="http://www.reference.com/search?r=13&q=Dispensationalist" REL="nofollow">Here</A> is where the definition below, came from. <A HREF="http://www.reference.com/search?r=13&q=Dispensationalist" REL="nofollow">The link</A> goes into much more detail but I pulled out a brief definition and copied it below. <BR/><BR/>--------<BR/><BR/>"Dispensationalism seeks to address what many see as opposing theologies between the Old Testament and New Testament. Its name comes from the fact that it sees biblical history as best understood in light of a series of dispensations in the Bible. The precise list of dispensations varies between authors, but the most common list of dispensations is taken from the notes to the Scofield Bible:<BR/> * the dispensation of innocence (Gen 1:1–3:7), prior to Adam's fall,<BR/> * of conscience (Gen 3:8–8:22), Adam to Noah,<BR/> * of government (Gen 9:1–11:32), Noah to Abraham,<BR/> * of patriarchal rule (Gen 12:1–Exod 19:25), Abraham to Moses,<BR/> * of the Mosaic Law (Exod 20:1–Acts 2:4), Moses to Christ,<BR/> * of grace (Acts 2:4–Rev 20:3 – except for Hyperdispensationalists), the current church age, and<BR/> * of a literal, earthly 1,000-year Millennial Kingdom that has yet to come but soon will (Rev 20:4–20:6)."Cherish the Homehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09334718202170470399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25640206.post-74545493905406363052007-09-28T12:45:00.000-05:002007-09-28T12:45:00.000-05:00mrs.b,To me it is as simple as keeping in mind the...mrs.b,<BR/><BR/>To me it is as simple as keeping in mind the stated purpose for the feasts, sacrifices, Sabbaths, priesthood, and all the carnal ordinances.<BR/><BR/>Can you define what you mean by dispensationalist?James McEntirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18076786630641849452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25640206.post-66302693970644361372007-09-28T12:39:00.000-05:002007-09-28T12:39:00.000-05:00I believe that those who curse Israel will be curs...<I>I believe that those who curse Israel will be cursed and that those who bless Israel will be blessed. I count myself among the Jews strongest supporters.</I><BR/><BR/>Me too! I LOVE the Jewish people and believe they are the apple of God's eye--God's chosen people.<BR/><BR/>Thank you for taking the time to answer our question. I agree with your line of reasoning and believe that the Scriptures support you view. It seems to me like people are wishing to feel 'righteous' and 'religious' and that's why they are embracing Jewish customs. Of course I don't know their heart so I can't say that for sure.--I just know my own heart and a bit about human nature.<BR/><BR/>Another question: Would you consider yourself a dispensationalist?Cherish the Homehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09334718202170470399noreply@blogger.com